Dish is now involved in six different programming disputes that has forced the satcaster to remove dozens of channels including such high-profile favorites as HBO, the NFL Network, the Fox regional sports channels and local network affiliates (ABC, CBS, Fox and NBC) in select markets.
The satcaster’s latest scraps with local broadcasters Scripps and Apollo Global, which triggered the removal of 74 different network affiliates, has intensified the debate among Dish’s subscribers over the company’s strategy.
Dish Chairman Charlie Ergen has long said he’s willing to allow certain channels to be blacked out if it means paying their owners less money when they return. (That is, if they return. Dish has been missing HBO now for nearly two years.) The Dish chief argues that playing tough at the negotiating table saves money and allows his company to provide lower prices than the competition.
The satellite TV service does offer lower prices than many pay TV operators, including longtime rival, DIRECTV.
For instance, Dish’s base plan, called America’s Top 120, features 190 channels and is available for $59.99 a month for two years. DIRECTV’s base plan, called Select, has 155 channels and is also available for $59.99. But that’s only for the first year. Unlike Dish, which offers the $59.99 a month rate for two years guaranteed, DIRECTV’s base price goes to at least $87 a month in year two.
That’s a significant difference. But is the price break worth the anguish of seeing your favorite channel blacked out for a period of time, or perhaps forever?
The Apollo and Scripps fee fights has triggered an outpouring of comments from Dish subscribers on social media sites with some backing Dish while others threatening to cancel their service.
Here are some of the more interesting viewpoints that have been posted in the last few days on Twitter:
Who is Apollo and why is he messing with my channels. ABC is gone, and I can’t watch the damn #NBA games. I need answers @dish. pic.twitter.com/1IHuAVsd35
— ZA Sports (@ZASports1) August 2, 2020
People who have DirecTV: do they have as many disputes/missing channels as Dish does? I’m currently going without ABC, FSOhio, Sportstime Ohio, NFL Network, and HBO thanks to Dish’s business practices.
— Shaddy (@IAmShaddy81) August 3, 2020
@dish What is happening with the negotiations with Cox Media Group to get our local channels back on? Getting tired of the same canned response. Are you even talking? My 18 years with DISH is about to end if you don’t stop blacking out channels.
— Judy Bible (@jb0728) August 3, 2020
For those in rural areas that doesn't work. I appreciate Charlie Ergen looking out for me but at what point do you drop his ass because you never know what channels you're going to have one day to the next? The whole industry needs a rude awakening.
— Greg Battreal (@GBattreal) July 25, 2020
I am a DISH customer asking for returned access to my stations. It's not fair that I as a consumer am unable to watch my content while a negotiation is taking place. Please return your channels to the air on DISH while you work to reach a deal.
— Lynda kleinman (@sincitylynda) July 30, 2020
@dish you suck so bad get the fox sports Ohio channels back! I’m tired of missing my sports!
— Aric Allen (@aricgallen) August 3, 2020
@DISHNews you are the worst! Channels always removed from your lineup! Now I can not watch NBA because ABC channel has been removed Dish Network sucks #dishnetworksucks
— Roberto Zuniga (@jrzuniga101) August 2, 2020
Came back to @dish to have channels removed that I originally signed up for. Now can’t watch my sports due to blackouts or channel disputes. Why should we pay the same price for less!?!?!
— Jeremy (@Preludeaws) August 2, 2020
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The FCC needs to put CAPS on prices for PROGRAMMERS.
They made a FORTUNE with the OLD Prices.
This is called GOUGING.
They are STILL making a KILLING from the Commercials
SAME as when GAS Companies take advantage during a Fuel (so called – Shortage)
So does Dish really think their subscribers believe they are still negotiating with HBO after two years, the RSNs after one year?
At what point do the negotiations stop and the honesty begins…your programming is cancelled…gone forever!
Come on Dish…be honest! Your bottom line is improved and you’ve got subscribers locked into ironclad contracts for up to two years. Where’s the incentive to return to the bargaining table? Oh I forgot…Charlie Ergen doesn’t negotiate. It’s winner take all with the customers getting dealt the losing hand!
Do you think dish didn’t want a contract. Or maybe it’s because the company that now owns HBO (AT&T) has their own streaming service DirectTV and they don’t want dishNetwork to have it anymore. And that’s why AT&T keep shoving DirectTV in their clients’s faces all the time.
Really. Do you think dishNetwork wanted to lose customers like myself when they couldn’t watch the last season of GoT? Not that we don’t want to forget that season!! It wasn’t their choice!
How do you feel now that ABC has been ripped from your programming? It is simple Dish is greedy!
DirecTV does not have as many disputes if any as Dish Network does. This is why I am against Dish Network owning DirecTV.
I’ve been a Directv customer for 26 years same thing here. Directv is the same every couple of months they’re having a dispute with the local channels.
Can we just get rid of dish and use a firestick
No baseball for another year. It’s crap. All the blackout stations. Where is my refund on my dish service then. Not seeing one.
Go to DTV and enjoy understanding their broken English speaking customer service with no follow through.
I forgot to mention, when the FCC Puts CAPS on the Prices.
REQUIRED them to MOVE ALL Customer Service BACK to the USA.
This goes for ALL United States Companies.
Telecommunications or ANY Business.
Customer service is terrible at directv since AT@T took over. I’m thinking of switching to Dish a lot better prices.
Don’t do it: DISH SUCKS
DOnt do it We have lost nearly all of our local channels..NBC nd CBS..Maybe ABC is Next..We arfe Going to Go Through Hulu Streaming service..
Dish has gotten real bad with dropping channels here.. There were 10 of us with dish on my street. Now there are 2 . I’ve seen people go to the streaming services (Roku, fire stick, etc ) with some free channels, and pay for the channels you want. I’m looking at doing that, and dropping dish. the pay channels you (I) want, are cheaper. The FCC needs to look at all these cable /services and do something because people are getting screwed just for the basic channels..
Dish says it’s Scripps fault and they say it’s Dish’s fault. I’ve never seen fights go for so long. A week at the mos and that’s too long. Come on! Hurry up!
Why should Scripps charge more money for a channel they provide over the air for free..?
That’s what I’d like to know too! Seems pretty crooked to me. Not legal. Pure greed!
This is ridiculous. Abc off air. I pay for it. Can’t evan watch on Abc.com because you have to sign in with your provider which is Dish so they block it.
Come on Dish
GREED!!! Get over it and put the channels back!!
I am under contract with Dish and because of the RSN’s not being available I just stripped my Dish service to the bare minimum so as not to void my contract. Then I turned around and got HULU to watch the Atlanta Braves. The minute my Dish contract is over…I’m done with Dish! Already done with DirecTV.
I have been a Dish customer for 10 yrs, I am really tired of their blackouts , I haven’t had ABC for a month, I already pay a lot for the stations I do get, this is unacceptable!
Me too. We have paid $199.12 and sometimes $212.00 monthly for 16 years plus….should I not be in charge of what I want to see and not Dish or other yeehaws….
If dish is no longer paying scripps, shouldn’t we get a refund?
Ann, I believe you’re right… we SHOULD get a refund and a lower monthly bill.
Dish is the worst.. Price goes up lock into a contract. Dish is breaching my contract by not delivering the number of choices they gave when the contract was signed. Price did not go down..but it will when we drop them. Look out dish only a few more months that we have to live with you.. Here we come Direct TV. My advice to Dish is get this fixed. If everyone would give you the boot I bet results would come quick. I would never never give your company a referral.
My contact expires in March and I will kick Dish out – no David Muir new for over a month
Dish is a horrid plus no signal when it rains which is often
It is all of them, Scripps, Dish, Direct TV, etc. At this time of the pandemic, all of them do not care that so many people are not working at this time and having severe financial crisis, it is all about them making as much money as they can for themselves. Forget YOU working Americans and YOUR PROBLEMS, this is the time for these companies to price gouge the American public, and no wonder the government has to control certain industries, TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC, from being gouged. These prices are alreadt to high with their contracts that protects them, NOT THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. YOU ARE THE WORST PART OF CAPITALISM!!!!!!!
I agree with all of the comments listed, this is unacceptable, I’ve tried to call the 800 number to request a refund but there is no answer but I bet Direct Tv will answer when I call them tomorrow
When you call DTV, I really hope you can understand their customer service representatives. With the broken English spoken, the hours that my wife has been on the line with them in the past, and the lack of follow thru by their employees, you will wish you had Dish Network back.
Could not agree more with comments above. Get ABC back on the air. I signed up for Dish with certain channels, only to continue to pay same rate with these channels removed. If Dish isn’t careful, they will lose a substantial amount of their customer base and have no one but themselves to blame. Disgusted.
Sick of Dish network. Too many lost channels and no refunds. Have had dish for 20 years. Dish needs to negotiate the contract and let us make a decision whether or not we want to pay the price or not. If you call dish you will talk to people that speak the worst English. Get yourself together dish network. I will make sure I tell everyone I know to never go
With dish network. FIX THESE ISSUES AND GIVE US OUR STATIONS BACK. Or GIVE US REFUNDS
All my programs are on ABC, I’m paying for them. I want them back.
I also watch ABC most of the morning. I am tired of missing my shows.
I agree signa contact and give us Re chNels bac
I have had Dish for 8 months now. I pay $12.00 extra to have local channels. Now the ceo is in notation with Scripts and ABC. Which is local that I pay for every month. Guess what I am still paying $12.00 a month and they have no problem excepting that. I called to see if I could get out of my contract. They said yes for and extra $340. Are you freaking kidding me. Once my contact is over I am done with dish and will never recommending them to anyone
Dish is a big bunch of bs they are cutting off local networks for pennies while their customers pay $$ for service that use to be free what a scam
I am so tired of not having my local channels, I am ready to get another service. I would also pay the extra money to have local channels. Yes, direct nay cost more but you have all your channels. Get a deal ASAP or we are changing services.
I have been with Dish for 19 years. Lost the channel with my soap operas. Can’t get out of my contract for another year but really have no other service where I live. Can’t stream and am not using a separate antenna since I pay Dish over !100 a month. First it was HBO when Game of Thrones was in its final season now this. Give us back our dam channels and stop making our lives miserable. Isn’t it bad enough that we’re locked up for months because of the Covid now you take away our channels. It’s all about controling the public and keeping us down.!!!
We have been a customer for a number of years and were asked to renew in order to fix problems. First we lost fox sports, then HBO now local programming. We intend to cancel our agreement with Dish this week because they are inn breach of contract for not delivering on the agreement
Bring ABC back!!!! It has been too long. I am giving them one more week, then I’m changing. I’ve had enough!!!!!!
Dish or it’s CEO don’t care about anything except the money in his pocket. Don’t even check the Dish promise site because it’s really Dish lies.
When the loan stations want a new 3 year contract, they want double the price of the last contract price. A 100%. I DON’T BLAME DISH FOR NOT PAYING THAT INCREASE. THAT IS WHY DISHPRICES ARE CHEAPER THANDTV.
We just got a hopper and renewed our Dish contract. Can we cancel this if ABC is not in the package? We are unable to attend the Clemson ballgames, but wewere looking forward to seeing them on ABC.
Can not cancel without a penalty.
Maybe if we all banded together and protested they might reconsider. I’m tired of paying for things I’m not getting! How about you??
I’m done with Dish
YOU AREN’T GOING TO GET A BETTER SERVICE ANYWHERE ELSE.
Really John. How much does Dish pay you. Dish just blacked out Fox on Dec-2-2020. Why do these blackouts last so long. The only one that loses is the customer. They always blame each other. Not good business. U S needs another carrier to stop this price gouging.
I just want Dish network to know that I regret ever leaving Comcast thinking Dish network would be so great. I pay way more money and constantly lose channels. Do they not realize that people are going to leave their company. What then? So damn dissatisfied with dish
DISH is in breach of contract by removing ABC from channels I agreed to & paid for when forced to switch to DISH by my local CenturyLink provider. Return ABC to DISH subscribers while you iron out your greed! It will be worth the expense to cancel my DISH subscription.
I’m giving Dish till it interrupts my college football on ABC, then I’m cancelling. Been a customer for many years
I DON’T THINK YOU UNERSTAND. ABC IS DEMANDING THAT DISH DOULE THE PRICE THAT THEY PAY ABC. IF THEY PAY THAT PRICE, YOU CAN COUNT ON DISH RAISING YOUR PRICE THE EQUIVELENT OR MORE. PRICE INCREASES MUST BE PASSED ON TO THE END CUSTOMER.
Well, so what. We’re having to pay more anyway to get an additional streaming service for all the channels you’ve taken away. You are already costing us more money.
One thing would really shake up these companies like Dish, DirectTV and many more companies and that being “why can’t the subscribers form a UNION of VIEWERS” to protect ourselves from all this crap that goes on with them. There attitude has and is and will be,”you will get what we want you to have at the price we want to charge and we will change it anytime we choose to do so and you will still pay the same dam price or you will have nothing” That includes your money.That attitude has been around since the day these business’s started long ago and it has kept festering more and more everyday since and it will not subsist until they are FORCED to change it. I BELIEVE A “VIEWERS UNION WOULD DO JUST THAT” AND THERE SURE WOULD NOT BE A HARDSHIP IN GETTING THE PUBLIC TO SIGN UP, PROBABLY THE WHOLE WORLD WOULD DO IT IS A HEARTBEAT!! Then who would be in control, they would serve at our becon call without hesitation. Charles
I have been with DISH since 2007 and have seen my rates go up up UP all the time. Then I have to call and “negotiate” for a better price and see what “discounts” they have now. Most of the time I go to the Philippines and generally they can’t do much. My lowest bill was around $60 back in 2007 and then up to almost $150 recently. I did negotiate a better price but am locked into a 2 year contract. Local channel 7 KIRO has been off air since July 22, over 2 months! Doesn’t seem like it’s coming back. The problem with DISH is their “tiers”. You can’t choose the channels you want. Out of the Top 250 that I buy, there’s 2 in one tier, 1 in another, and maybe a few in the other, so have to pay for all the tiers for 250 channels, of which I only watch less than 25. It’s a racket for sure. In this time of COVID, we need our local channels for information. I have heard that DirecTV and Comcast are just as bad so there really is no place to go. I’m thinking of getting out of my contract at the end of it and just going with regular TV and an antenna. I do enjoy some shows I would miss, but for $1200 a year, is it really worth it? I don’t think so. I can find most of my news and shows online FOR FREE. Boo on DISH and Cox Media. You guys suck.
Dish seems to always be in a dispute with someone and leaving their paying customers with less than they’re paying for every month. In the Atlanta area we haven’t had ABC for months but same problem in past couple years with NBC and CBS. Have never had that problem on Comcast so am going to switch. Tired of paying more for less than supposed to receive, and being a repetitive ANNUAL victim of large corporate greed.
Ask for a discount if channel is blocked
$5 taken off our monthly bill
As more customers get discount they will be losing more money and hopefully their bottom line will be effected as will sette
I have been reading the comments. We should really do a huge lawsuit against DISH and Apollo and whomever else is involved!! A multi-million dollar lawsuit might wake up some of these bastards!!
Nov. 09, 2020
I would have never signed with DISH if I had know there would be a blackout on some of the channels I want to watch. DISH you are getting payment for lesser programming than we all signed up for. It your responsibility to get this corrected at once. If not, you should be discounting our bills until your disputes are resolved. Quit screwing us aroung!
Happy to see the sports channels go. It’s all rigged anyway. A bunch of overpaid prima donnas. So boring. I’d rather watch someone paint a barn.Keep fighting for us DISH!
Dish is always canceling tv channels but we never see a decrease in our bill. Just about ready to give up tv altogether.
More than half my channels are people selling stuff. Time to leave dish and get a firestick
Dish Network needs to get CBS back and het through the negotiations with NBC to keep that network also. I pay for Dish Network to get certain channels and I can’t even watch them. Very Disappointing!
I am dish customer. Now you planning to remove abc, NBC and fox. We are on covid situation and stuck home to watch our shows. We can’t go out much because of the covid. We pay our or price to watch the show’s and now you want to remove them. Please don’t remove them. We will going nuts without our shows. We need to have something to watch while we are stuck home. You will make people depressed. Please I am begging you not to remove them.
i dont know whats going on butt i would like to have my local channels back on because we watch thouse channels all the time
Just need to leave a message that can be legal in court. When I signed on to Dish, I was told all my local channels would be included and now two of them are gone. I want out of my contract or paid to get these local channels elsewhere.
What is the legal recourse for this nonsense. Now they have pulled NBC along with FOX out of the Little Rock, AR market. No football and all we get are excuses.
It is now December and we lost CBS and WNLO. CBS promised $1 billion to its shareholders and they don’t have it, so they are threatening to shut off CBS because they f$@#ed up!!! Why should I have to pay for your errors??? Don’t promise money you don’t have! How dare you pull this during a pandemic when this is all people have! Haven’t we suffered enough??? Gil Schwartz Chief Communications Officer and Senior Executive Vice President
Chief Communications Officer and Senior Executive Vice President
YOU DISGUST ME!!!!
Don’t bother coming back to Dish! I got an antenna! You are a horrible person and I hope the wrath of God comes down on you HARD!!!
dish is like being in a room of pick pockets. You have to stand against the wall and try to watch all of them like a hawk. I have had dish for 4months and have complained at least 6 times. Now, they remove my local channel and I no longer can watch my tn titans. THEY SUCK!
You hang in there Dish; I do not need to get local channels from you. My home is setup with a outside antenna that pulls in my local channels just find. And as for HBO and other prem. Channels, I subscribe to the streaming service they offer. So, as far as I am concern these local channels are looking to double.
I am BEYOND pissed and frustrated. After being a lifelong DIRECTV subscriber, I switched to DISH in July. Since this switch over, I have had 5…. that’s right FIVE, local channels ripped away from me. I am regretting this switch every day and now I am tied in for 2 years. There seems to be a pattern here with DISH. The last straw for me was this week when the last of my FOX channels was pulled. This means no more football for my family and I am furious! As always, the big companies pull in the $$$$ and we the customers suffer. I did email Mission and interesting….. they were able to reach an agreement with DIRECTV through December 2022…… interesting that DISH is putting this on Mission. There is a pattern with DISH and I will tell everyone I know… stay the hell away from DISH! I would much rather pay a little more with DIRECTV and BE ABLE TO WATCH the channels that we love than pay less and get ZERO.. Total BS on DISH’s part and they ought to be ashamed of themselves. Can’t wait for my 2 years to be up….
1 extremely disgruntled DISH subscriber…..
I previously had Dish when I lived in West Virginia a number of years ago. It was a good service then. So this year when I moved to North Carolina early last year I once again subscribed to Dish. What a mistake. I paid for a certain lineup of shows but now I can’t get a most of them. New season of shows is starting but all I can get is old reruns and crappy advertising stations. My wife is pissed. Unfortunately I’m signed up for another year, but when I fulfill my obligation I’m gone. If they think I’ll forget by then, well, I stopped watching the NFL when they first let the morons take a knee and I haven’t watched since. Besides, my wife will probably remind me for the next year.
Just considered switching to Dish from Direct TV. BUT, Dish is in no hurry to reaquire Fox Sports channels. After researching what people with Dish are doing (streaming to get the sports they want) I have decided the added cost isn’t worth it. I have them now.
Dish needs to determine how many subscribers will drop them when their contract expires. Mine only has a couple months left-then I will leave Dish. Dish may be looking to drive cost down, but they also need to be aware consumers will leave causing less revenue. I’ve had Dish for several years, over the years I’ve tolerated switching programming, like the weather channel. The basic conclusion here Dish will lose customers. Right now, I’m looking at several alternatives, they don’t include a contract.
Dish is always blaming someone else it not them BS can’t keep blaming someone else ,pretty sad you take away free channel and yet you expect us to pay you and you are the one that broke your contract with his, think we should all pull together and refuse to pay them?
I’m missing the Voice and Savanah and Hoda in the mornings. I don’t care about sports but don’t mess with my channel 13 out of Indianapolis!
This happens every year or so. I live in an rural town and have a favorite local news channel, been gone since Oct. 6th!!!! Now for the low package I pay 109.00 a month. I have had dish for 30 plus years, the same basic package started at 59.00! Crazy or what!!!!!! Tired of it.
You said everything was settled and CBS would be back on Dish on Thanksgiving. Well it is Thanksgiving and my CBS is still not on. I am sick and tired of paying for a service that I am not getting. You need to make adjustments to the bills of the customers you still have before you lose them too!
The feedback and question section of Dish is perfect example as to the GREED on both parts of this NBC issue. DISH DOESN’T WANT TO HEAR WHAT VIEWERS HAVE TO SAY. Customer service and satisfaction is no longer an issue for them. Paying over 1500 a year should get us some satisfaction. Now I know why people are going strickly streaming. This sucks.
Folks, If you live in a rural area, they think they have us over a barrel, and maybe so, but I have seen this kind of thing before, soon the customers will be gone and so will they!
starting to realize how i can do without all tv. Because rural internet providers do not provide speed needed to do streaming they are also in the CAN DO WITHOUT service they don’t provide. Ready to go back TO THE GOOD OLD DAYS…..conversation, books, hobbies and uninterrupted sleep.
Lately ABC has disappeared from my tv–says channel not available–also Shows record themselves without me doing anything–When I see the red light on I check to see what;s being recorded that i didn’t record–have to delete these unwanted programs all the time–dish has gone crazy-
So everyone who has dish can’t watch the super bowl. Ain’t that sweet. Thanks dish.
The 2 most important NFL games today and you decide that you cannot give in and broadcast KC and Cincinatti. I am done, you hold us hostage for your bottom line–give me a break. We pay the freight and are willing to do so.
dish is done they are the biggest scammers i ever saw and there should be a class action lawsuit against them for all the people who are set up for automated payments i had to cancel my debit card to stop the theft by them and i hope they go down in flames thieves they are i think the hack was just part of the whole scam and still continues if we dont do something about it
Please get our local channel (WYOU) back on air. I am sick and tired of these loss of channels happening every year ot two. This is not what we pay for.